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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 31 Aug 94       Volume 94 : Issue  980

Today's Topics:
         Another *WACKY* and *WILD* internet PARTY!! (2 msgs)
                           Auto/Phone Patch
                    CFV: rec.antiques.radio+phono
             Extended TX for Yaesu FT-11R or ICOM IC-2iA?
                            FLAME the FCC
                    ICOM service center phone #?
                         Is the DX server ok?
                    Number of Call Signs (2 msgs)
                  Ragchewing conversational protocol
                REQUEST: TH-22 undocumented features?
                Senator Barry Goldwater Event Station
                        W6RO @ The Queen Mary

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 11:38:03 -0700
From: nntp.crl.com!crl6.crl.com![e-mail]
Subject: Another *WACKY* and *WILD* internet PARTY!!
To: [e-mail]

Second Live Video Party Extravaganza from MONK, the only mobile magazine
on this side of the Universe!

Not content with our first huge success, we will now attempt a more daring
enterprise:

We will broadcast live to the internet the *Burning Man*!

The event will take place on the remote, vision-inducing playa of the
Nevada desert (about 100 miles north of Reno--7 hour drive from
San Francisco) throughout Labor Day Weekend (September 2-5).
Burning Man is a ragtag assemblage of neopagans, ravers, hippies
and lawyers that culminates in the ritual torching of a four-story-high
figure made of wood and glass! (expected attendance 2500 people)

For reflector's ip address, times and general logistics contact:

        Internet Access: [e-mail]

PS: If you have a CU-SeeMe reflector server and would like to tie your
reflector to ours, please contact us.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE BURNING MAN, CONTACT: 415-985-7471

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 11:37:17 -0700
From: nntp.crl.com!crl6.crl.com![e-mail]
Subject: Another *WACKY* and *WILD* internet PARTY!!
To: [e-mail]

Second Live Video Party Extravaganza from MONK, the only mobile magazine
on this side of the Universe!

Not content with our first huge success, we will now attempt a more daring
enterprise:

We will broadcast live to the internet the *Burning Man*!

The event will take place on the remote, vision-inducing playa of the
Nevada desert (about 100 miles north of Reno--7 hour drive from
San Francisco) throughout Labor Day Weekend (September 2-5).
Burning Man is a ragtag assemblage of neopagans, ravers, hippies
and lawyers that culminates in the ritual torching of a four-story-high
figure made of wood and glass! (expected attendance 2500 people)

For reflector's ip address, times and general logistics contact:

        Internet Access: [e-mail]

PS: If you have a CU-SeeMe reflector server and would like to tie your
reflector to ours, please contact us.

FOR MORE INFORMATION ON THE BURNING MAN, CONTACT: 415-985-7471

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Date: 29 Aug 1994 17:59:05 GMT
From: psinntp!psinntp!sa-htn.valmet.com![e-mail]
Subject: Auto/Phone Patch
To: [e-mail]

John Chapman ([e-mail]) wrote:
:
:   Phone patches on Amateur Radio repeaters are for the convenience of
: persons that allready have an amateur license.
:   The patch is for contacting family and friends AND summoning assistance
: when needed.
:   No business calls allowed.

Actually, the law was recently changed.  It now reads no business calls that
are in the pecuniary interest of the ham making the call.  Hence, you can
now call and order a pizza unless you work for the pizza parlor.  You still
can't call your office for messages, talk to your secretary or your boss,
or a client because that's how you earn your living.  Of course, there are
always local options and you should check with the control operator of the
repeater you are using to see if there are any restrictions to the use of
the repeater which are not covered under the FCC regulations.  Remember, the
repeater trustee has his license on the line too.

73...de KJ5AZ, Jeff, Houston, Texas
[e-mail]

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 15:19:13 -0400
From: [e-mail]
Subject: CFV: rec.antiques.radio+phono
To: [e-mail]

                          FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
                  unmoderated group rec.antiques.radio+phono

Newsgroups line:
rec.antiques.radio+phono    Audio devices and materials of yesteryear.

Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 September 1994.

After this CFV appears on news.announce.newgroups it will be sent to
the mailing list <[e-mail]>

This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party.  For voting
questions only contact [e-mail].  For questions about the
proposed group contact Bill Robie <[e-mail]>


CHARTER

Discussion of the use, repair, and collecting of early standard-broadcast
radios, phonographs, and any other similarly-related items designed for home
entertainment sound receiving or sound reproduction.

This group is intended to be a forum for those with an interest
in sound-receiving and sound-reproduction equipment that was generally
manufactured prior to the widespread use of transistors.  The group's
discussion, however, will not be strictly limited to vacuum-tube and
mechanical devices, and those with an interest in early transistor radios,
early televisions, and other such items that reflect pioneering audio
technology will be welcomed.

Exclusions:

Amateur radio equipment discussion will be directed to the existing amateur
radio newsgroups and to the boatanchors list.  This is only done because
those groups present an established forum for people with an interest in
classic amateur radio equipment.  Those classic amateur radio collectors who
also share an interest in early standard-broadcast equipment will fully
appreciate the desire to separate the two interests.  Their valuable
expertise will, however, be most welcome in all forums.


Since the summer of 1993, there has been an ongoing discussion among
those interested in antique radios and phonographs (and other related
equipment and materials) about the possibility of forming this
newsgroup.  That small core of enthusiasts has rapidly grown in
number, and now includes representatives of museums, technical
specialists, collectors, and novices with an inquisitiveness about
sound reproducing and receiving equipment of the past.  With
enthusiasm for the preservation and enjoyment of these superb
expressions of human inventiveness steadily increasing, the time has
come to establish a forum through which knowledge of their history,
restoration, and use can be shared by experts and newcomers alike.
This proposal represents the essence of what an Internet newsgroup can
accomplish--it can produce a collective source of knowledge from which
useful information can be drawn for years into the future.
      Bill Robie, August, 1994


HOW TO VOTE

Send MAIL to:   [e-mail]
Just Replying should work if you are not reading this on a mailing list.

Your mail message should contain one of the following statements:
      I vote YES on rec.antiques.radio+phono
      I vote NO on rec.antiques.radio+phono

You may also ABSTAIN in place of YES/NO - this will not affect the outcome.
Anything else may be rejected by the automatic vote counting program.  The
votetaker will respond to your received ballots with a personal acknowledge-
ment by mail - if you do not receive one within several days, try again.
It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly.

One vote counted per person, no more than one per account. Addresses and
votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results list.

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 16:59:31 GMT
From: psinntp!gatekeeper.nsc.com!voder!apple.com!phils1.atg.apple.com![e-mail]
Subject: Extended TX for Yaesu FT-11R or ICOM IC-2iA?
To: [e-mail]

   Do you happen to know of a modification for either the Yaesu FT-11R or
the ICOM IC-2iA which allows extended transmit?

phil sohn
[e-mail]

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 18:38:10 GMT
From: netnews.upenn.edu!news.drexel.edu!news.ge.com!knight.vf.ge.com!cnn.motown.ge.com!epi041![e-mail]
Subject: FLAME the FCC
To: [e-mail]



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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 94 17:48:52 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcomsv!skyld![e-mail]
Subject: ICOM service center phone #?
To: [e-mail]

In article <33t1mu$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:

  [ nothing of note ]

  >   -joe

  OK, Joe, let me make it real clear for you. (Shall I type slower?)

  I made reference to the cost of the equipment since a large (subjective)
  number of hams will spend large sums on gear and NOTHING on support. The
  fact that I *have* money to spend on equipment (and proper maintainance)
  is do to the fact that the gear I own is working. Not constantly being
  replaced. (Read that as sold at a loss as in the example I had orginally
  posted.)

  I worked at Diawa Electronics for  couple of years as the service manager.
  Previous jobs included a couple of amateur product stores (retail) and
  one manufacturer. I am a regular vendor at the TRW swap meet. Tell me about
  amateurs. I've been watching, selling, repairing their stuff and talking
  with them for the past 25 years.

  Spending time and or money on something isn't a measure of how clever you
  are. It is simply a matter of making the commitment to do a job correctly.

  The orginal posting was in regards to those amateurs that somehow see any
  little inconvienence as a "major ripoff" from the vendor/seller/manufacturer.
  It wasn't a personal attack on you, pull you head out of your ass and grow
  up a bit. Nothing on this net goes un-noticed, learn to live with it or go
  away.

  73 es GM from Jeff (who has the time and money to maintain his toys)




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Date: 30 Aug 1994 21:07:57 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Is the DX server ok?
To: [e-mail]

In article <33vmed$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Sean E. Kutzko) writes:
>
>I haven't received anything from the DX server in about a week,
>except for posts with no text whatsoever. They asre simply
>addressed to "[e-mail]" and are from "[e-mail]"
>No text. Is the server down, or am I down? Any clues?
>Thanks for the info.

Same thing is happening here.  Lyndon was moving to a new facility, or
something.  Must be a few problems.  I emailed a message to Lyndon about the
problem.




--
Ken Anderson   N0ZEM     PH: 515.294.8996    [e-mail]
126 Soil Tilth Bldg.                N0ZEM@KI0Q.#CIA.IA.USA.NA
Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa 50011

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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 19:18:36 GMT
From: netcomsv!netcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Number of Call Signs
To: [e-mail]

In article <Pine.3.89.9408300820.A5777-0100000@bigcat>,
Thomas P. Denny <[e-mail]> wrote:
>OK, basic math quiz time -
>Everyone knows that the FCC says they've used up all the call
>signs of a certain type in some areas, i.e. the 1by3 calls in
>districts 0, 4, 5, 6, 7, & 8 and 2by2 Extra Class calls in
>Hawaii, Alaska, & Puerto Rico.
>I have seen articles on the history of call signs in the
>US, and how the FCC has allocated them and for what reasons
>over the years, however, I was wondering just how many call signs
>(that is, combinations of letters and numbers) does the FCC
>really have at its disposal. Therefore I humbly submit the
>following;
>
>1by1 calls: (4)(10)(26) = 1,040
Bizzz ... (3)(10)(26) = 790 (can't assign A[0-9][A-Z] 'cuz that isn't US
call-sign space)

>1by2 calls: (4)(10)(26)(26) = 27,040
Same error.

>1by3 calls: (4)(10)(26)(26)(26) = 703,040
And again.

>2by1 calls: (3)(26)(10)(26) + (1)(12)(10)(26) = 23,400
Hmmm .. but from here on you knew ....


>(i.e., ASS, KKK, HCI, etc.) the number is reduced by about 4700
                  ^^^??????????

>Just food for thought. Also, since I don't have a Cray or other
>supercomputer immediately available, there could be
Gosh -- I was able to do it all with my brain and a pad of paper...

One other fact:  There are a few hundred (thousand?) callsigns that
LOOK just like amateur service calls, but are reserved for other
experimental services ... I saw a call WA4X?? that was assigned to
a project out at Stanford ... Who knows the whole story behind that?

>[e-mail]
Ahhh ... that explains it ... a student :-)



    Scott

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 15:28 CDT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!news.uh.edu!elroy.uh.edu![e-mail]
Subject: Number of Call Signs
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Scott Statton)

>
>One other fact:  There are a few hundred (thousand?) callsigns that
>LOOK just like amateur service calls, but are reserved for other
>experimental services ... I saw a call WA4X?? that was assigned to
>a project out at Stanford ... Who knows the whole story behind that?

Also, WxY? calls were set aside for learning institutions.  If you
have a callsign database on your computer, search for all WxY? calls
that are CLUB calls and you will see what I mean!  i.e. W5YG belongs
to Rice University.  On a side note, I wish the FCC would of stuck
to their original plan, because now you have Univesities with "regular"
callsigns.  i.e. WB5FND belongs to my univeristy, Univ of Houston.

Does anyone know any other call blocks that were set aside for special
assignment?  (other than WR for repeater and WC for civil defence...)

--
Brad A. Killebrew N5LJV, EMT-B        | Student of Computer Engr Technology
President, University of Houston ARC  |    University of Houston, Texas
Internet: [e-mail]                |  U of H Amateur Radio Club  WB5FND
AMPRnet : [e-mail]    |      [e-mail]
Packet  : n5ljv@f6cnb.#setx.tx.usa.na | Box 85-T2, 4800 Calhoun, 77204-4083
AT&Tnet : 713-743-6676  Fax [phone]  | For info, finger [e-mail]

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Date: 30 Aug 1994 07:32:07 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!darwin.sura.net!news1.census.gov!info.census.gov![e-mail]
Subject: Ragchewing conversational protocol
To: [e-mail]

I live in the Louisville, KY area.  Around here, the "seasoned" hams seem
to have a real problem with repeaters being used by rag-chewers.  Even though
the rag-chewers follow proper procedure and are courteous, they still don't
like it.  They feel that using a repeater for a "round table" or an
extended QSO defeats the original intent of having a repeater in the first
place, which was to extend the range of HTs and mobiles.  The "seasoned"
hams want the rag-chewing to be done on simplex.  It has gotten so bad
around here that a couple of guys just turned their repeaters off, and
another guy shuts his down every evening.

I have mixed feelings about this issue.  I understand the point that the
repeater owners are trying to make, but I also wonder if it is practical
to expect all hams to use a repeater just the way you want it used.  If
no FCC rules are being broken, and everyone is being friendly and stuff,
I don't see how much "enforcement" can be done.

Just my $0.02 worth...
Kevin Barnes (N9RMG)
n9rmg@wd9agk.#sin.in.usa.na
[e-mail]

--
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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 18:17:38 GMT
From: galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!wang!dbushong@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: REQUEST: TH-22 undocumented features?
To: [e-mail]

I bought my son, N1SNI, a Kenwood TH-22A when he passed his Tech, and
now that he's memorized the manual, he's looking for anything that the
radio might do, which is not described in the manual.

If anyone has anything that he might enjoy, you can send it to him
directly on packet:

    [e-mail]

or you can reply/followup to this posting, and I'll pass it on.

Thanks, and 73,
Dave, KZ1O

--
Dave Bushong
OPEN/image Recognition Products

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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 15:30:01
From: news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com!s146.phxslip.indirect.com![e-mail]
Subject: Senator Barry Goldwater Event Station
To: [e-mail]

At FARE, we will have 2 HF event stations, a satellite station, and packet
stations, all on the air using K7UGA, Senator Barry Goldwater's callsign.
If you make a contact, we will send a special QSL card to you. No
exchange card is necessary.
The event takes place Saturday, September 17, 1994.
73,
Len, KB7LPW
00am, with the main
pavilion opening at 9:00am. There will be rides for the kids as well as the
NASA Spaceball for kids & adults, a dunk tank filled with "notables"!, many
operating stations including, HF voice & CW, packet, atv, MARS, AMSAT,
and much more. All stations are hands on by attendees. We also have an
event station signing Senator Barry Goldwater's callsign, K7UGA. The
Maricopa County Sheriff, Joe Arpaio will be there to speak, and the
Sheriff's helicopter will fly in for all to inspect PLUS SO MUCH MORE.
Be there.
73, Len, KB7LPW
PS. It's worth the trip from anywhere!

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Date: Tue, 30 Aug 1994 17:48:55 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!ncar!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!llyene!kd6msm.jpl.nasa.gov![e-mail]
Subject: W6RO @ The Queen Mary
To: [e-mail]

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Greg Bullough)
wrote:

> If use of W6RO (as W6RO) is contingent upon being a hotel guest, could it
> be construed that W6RO is being used for commercial purposes, to promote
> the hotel?

I guess we will not know that until they make being a hotel guest a
requirement to use the station. You do have to pay for parking, however. If
you are a local resident and become one of the regular, volunteer
operators, then you get free parking too.

--
Gregory R. LaBorde                    Phone: [phone]
Member Technical Staff - Galileo OET  [e-mail]
Jet Propulsion Laboratory             Packet:kd6msm@w6vio.#soca.ca.usa.na

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Date: (null)
From: (null)
>Wait till this guy waits about a year or two for a QSL card from the bureau.
>  "    "    "   "     "     "  2 years for FR5DX to return a QSL.


You mean you actually received a QSL from FR5DX!!!


Where have all the sunspots gone?
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